{"id":1565,"date":"2010-02-03T09:19:26","date_gmt":"2010-02-03T14:19:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gubatron.com\/blog\/?p=1565"},"modified":"2010-02-03T09:19:26","modified_gmt":"2010-02-03T14:19:26","slug":"re-ipad-ipass-by-andrew-fischler","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gubatron.com\/blog\/re-ipad-ipass-by-andrew-fischler\/","title":{"rendered":"Re: iPad, iPass. By Andrew Fischler"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>This is the response to my post &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gubatron.com\/blog\/2010\/01\/27\/ipad-ipass\/\">iPad, iPass<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/fischler.org\/\">Andrew Fischler<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve tried to counter some of your points here as objectively as I could. For the record, I\u2019m a happy Apple user, but consider myself to be open minded to all platforms.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Price<\/strong><br \/>\nAn unsubsidized iPhone is $599\/$699 depending on the memory size. This thing is twice the size \u2014 physically and in available memory. That\u2019s not that bad considering some sources were saying $999 as a possible price point, though I never believed that myself.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The A4<\/strong><br \/>\nThe chip is a BIG deal. The A4 is actually an ARM processor, just like the chips used to power all iPhones, so no platform switching here. Even so, the OS is platform independent, and they\u2019ve shown they can manage that kind of switch easily enough if they ever want to do so.<\/p>\n<p>PA Semi \u2014 the company Apple bought to make these chip designs \u2014 have a history with high performance, low power chips. Even the Military loved their stuff. The A4 is clocked at 1ghz \u2014 twice the speed jump from the iPhone 3GS than it took from the 3G, and Apple is still willing to claim super-human battery life. Even at a more realistic 5-hours max, that\u2019s a lot of horsepower for a mobile device (though not for a full-sized laptop). Every hands-on account I read points to screaming fast responsiveness, but I reserve final judgement until I have that same privilege.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Connectivity<\/strong><br \/>\nThe fact they will sell a WiFi only model and you\u2019re not interested is missing the point. Some will want the always on connectivity option, but what if you were happy just to play games, watch movies and read books while out and surf the net at home or a hotspot?<\/p>\n<p>Plus, there\u2019s the added cost of the 3G service. Considering my phone already lets me get to the net, I have a harder time justifying the added payments to AT&#038;T. I could really see myself using the WiFi only version \u2014 that\u2019s the same way I enjoy my laptop when I\u2019m out and about. ^_^<\/p>\n<p><strong>3G Tax<\/strong><br \/>\n$130 for the chips and radio equipment for 3G is bullshit, but I can\u2019t say this is unexpected. Just like they get you on the price of memory with the built-to-order, there\u2019s usually one spot where they hit you cause they can.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Storage Size<\/strong><br \/>\nI would consider myself to be both a power user and a music connoisseur. My iPhone (16GB 3G) has 11 pages of apps and web shortcuts, and my music library is 30,000 tracks strong. I could never get that whole library into my phone, but I couldn\u2019t get the whole thing on a laptop comfortably, either. I keep about 1,800 tracks and rotate albums in and out every few weeks. It\u2019s worked for well over a year and a half.<\/p>\n<p>Now answer this question: If a netbook was your only computer, would you have a music librabry as large as you do now? The large part of us who get a netbook or an iPad aren\u2019t going to use it as their only computer, so I don\u2019t think you should treat it like one in your example.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Flash Support<\/strong><br \/>\nA whole \u2018nother kettle of fish. I will admit that the day Flash is used more for content production and less for content distribution, the happier I will be. HTML5 is being built to supplant a lot of the jobs Flash does, and I think we\u2019re starting to get to the tipping point. Apple and Google both use WebKit at the core of all their browsers \u2014 computer or mobile \u2014 which means you have two very ambitious companies with huge clout and their own good reasons for making WebKit be the best engine it can be, which is helping to accelerate standards support elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>In short \u2014 unless Adobe opens the source code for Flash like Apple did with WebKit, they will never put Flash on the iPhone OS. Web Devs will find a way around this, and I wouldn\u2019t be surprised to see Adobe be the one on the short end.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Netbooks aren\u2019t that bad<\/strong><br \/>\nSteve Jobs, as with any CEO, needs to be taken with a grain of salt.<\/p>\n<p>Netbooks as a platform will remain, and they will still have their advocates. But I\u2019ll bet it\u2019s less than 18 months before someone gets an Android or Chrome-powered touch tablet to market \u2014 more hackable and working to compete on merit with the iPad. I\u2019ll also bet Google forms a team to do that ala the Nexus, along with licensing to 3rd parties.<\/p>\n<p><strong>OS Choice<\/strong><br \/>\nThe iPhone OS is a scaled down version of OS X specifically with touch devices and low power consumption in mind. I really don\u2019t see how you could have thought they\u2019d use anything other than that in their tablet.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/stevenf.tumblr.com\/post\/359224392\/i-need-to-talk-to-you-about-computers-ive-been\">stevenf has a GREAT piece about \u201cOld World v. New World\u201d computing<\/a>, which talks a lot about how the device is perceived by those who are used to their computers doing everything vs. those who are used to it doing one thing at a time well. They may be computers at heart, but they are built and designed as consumer electronics, which have higher expectation levels and less tolerances to things not working like they should.<\/p>\n<p>That said, this relatively young branch of the OS X and more will need to be done to flesh out the platform. Moore\u2019s law will help the hardware eventually handle most (but not all) of what one of today\u2019s laptops can do. We know the OS can multitask because the iPod software runs in the background. You can dislike their decisions, but you can\u2019t fault the reasoning: they want stability first, performance second, and multiple background apps put strains on both.<\/p>\n<p>At some point Apple will ease the restrictions and let dev have multitasking apps. But not today.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is the response to my post &#8220;iPad, iPass&#8221; by Andrew Fischler. I\u2019ve tried to counter some of your points here as objectively as I could. 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