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Will Joost Die?

Monday, January 7th, 2008

Michael Volpi must either have a great plan for innovation this year, or he must be feeling like the walls are closing in.

Joost started the race for Internet TV way before everyone else with a product unlike any other, with the promise of unprecedented flexibility on targeted ads so the advertisers would get the best bang for their buck.

However it seems like way too many people have jumped on the Internet TV space, with many different and innovative approaches.

During the last weeks, I’ve started noticing how some big players are merging with Hulu.com’s embeddable content and how some of them are trying to get into your living room.

Last year I told David Clark, North American VP of Joost at the NY Video Meetup that many people have said that Joost should create a Set-Top Box device, or to partner up with a TV manufacturer and get Joost on the TV, but probably one of the things they’ve not thought about is to port Joost into an Xbox Live downloadable application and make a deal with Microsoft. Of course this was in front of hundreds of people and he just gave me a politically correct answer and went on.

If I could have a chance to talk to Michael Volpi, I’d suggest a couple of crazy ideas, which have been implemented during the past week by no other than Microsoft, Veoh.com, and the Big G.

Microsoft and Veoh started embedding Hulu.com’s content on their video websites. It seems to me that Joost, being a XULRunner application, can do anything a web page can do, including the embedding of flash players such as Hulu’s.

Hulu might be their #1 competitor, and it seems to me that they got the best content of all the video websites, and they can offer it at no cost to the end viewer (ad sponsored). If I were Volpi, I’d take a crazy chance and start a new line up of Hulu based channels. There’s no way to get around the commercial insertion points that Hulu will show, but at least he would keep the audience within the application, giving him more P2P uptime to share content, and at the same time he could even overlay some ads on top of that content.

It sucks that there’s nothing really worth watching in Joost and if there is, it’s a pain in the ass to discover the good stuff. Instead you go to Hulu.com and you find things organized by Show, not channels. (Joost should have a way to browse content by show, season, episodes, not like 100 CBS channels with the same logo). In Hulu you’ll find the stuff everyone is watching, Heroes, The Simpsons, Family Guy, and the list goes on.

It’s a tough world getting the content, and I think Joost should start making some headlines soon, they must be running out of funding, after all it was only like 40mill they got last year, and rumors say they have over 100 people between NY and Europe, add to that bandwidth and operational costs and the money leaks.

So they’ve not made their content embeddable, probably cause they haven’t made up their minds on whether to be real imaginative on how to implement P2P on the flash player, or to create their own browser plugin (which should be included when you download the client now, so that you can start creating momentum, but would turn probably into another Real Player, vs Quicktime, vs Media Player pain in the ass), or to bite the bullet and start distributing both embeddable (Flash Player based) and Joost P2P content.

As if all this wasn’t enough, then you have Microsoft with the Xbox already on the living rooms implementing IPTV of their own, and with another device, totaling a significant potential 10 million subscribers, and Panasonic announcing the development of a new TV that will allow you to watch Internet Video provided by Google (YouTube)

The company isn’t mine and I feel stressed about it, I hope they have a good plan, right now the content they have does not compel me to close whatever I’m doing to start watching in full screen or even with a tiny window anything. If anything I’ll gladly watch Joost on my living room, but it needs to be convenient.

Volpi, come up with a Joost Branded TV, A Set-Top-Box, A wireless streaming device, something! but you need to get on the living room, the content you have is not worth switching all my working tasks to watch Joost for over 10 minutes, and that way you won’t get me to see any ads. In the meantime get us some good content, get us South Park you already got Comedy Central, beg some more and get South Park, get HBO, put Hulu content in it, make Joost the symbol of watching TV on the computer or I don’t see Joost for 2009.


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Joost beta goes open for everybody, no more invites.

Monday, October 1st, 2007

Last week P2P-TV company Joost quietly released a 1.0 version of its p2p-tv-client with a revamped interface (on which I could reproduce at least 3 or 4 bugs that I tried to report on their forums).

Joost Search Result UI from 1.0

Today October 1st, they seem to have removed the invite only downloads and you can just go ahead and download it here.

For those enthusiast Mac users that tried this beta last friday, it seems that this is actually a hot fixed version of their application, the installer released last friday would freeze when you tried to shutdown the client.

If you’re still having this problem, just download a new installer from their site and the problem should be gone, those developers were probably coding hard during the weekend.

Let’s see if they’re really to handle some real load, interesting day for Joost developers.

Gubatron is a software developer in New York City, currently lead developer of p2p open source project FrostWire, and partner at MyBloop.com, during the day he works for a mysterious company called Temboo in Tribeca.

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Will there be a Joost client for Linux?

Tuesday, May 1st, 2007

“Yes, a Linux version is in the works. ”
Taken from Joost Forums

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Opiniones de Joost Beta v0.8.1

Sunday, March 4th, 2007

Para los que no saben que es Joost, brevemente, es un servicio de Television por internet que funciona de manera hibrida entre servidores centrales que contienen el contenido mediatico y una red peer to peer, es un startup creado por Janus Friis y Niklas Zennstrom los padres creadores de Kazaa y de Skype, ambas tecnologias P2P que han hecho demasiado dinero y han cambiado muchas cosas.

Joost (conocido en principio como Project Venice) este jueves pasado (Primero de Marzo de 2007), abrio una nueva ronda de Beta Testers para su segundo release beta. Finalmente tras la gran jaladera de bola desde que abrieron Joost.com yo y algunas personas finalmente logramos entrar a esta segunda ronda de beta testers. Al parecer en el futuro me daran lo que ellos llaman “Tokens” y dare estos tokens como invitaciones al sistema a personas que esten sumamente interesadas en probar el producto y ayudar al equipo de desarrollo con el feedback necesario para llevarlo a un nivel de calidad estable.

En este post no voy a poner Screenshots, primero porque violaria el acuerdo de licencia en el cual me dicen que no debiera mostrar este producto a nadie, y segundo, pq estoy escribiendoles desde Vista, y Joost aun no es compatible con Windows Vista, cuando intentas lanzarlo te da el siguiente error:

Supongo que pronto resolveran estos problemas de compatibilidad con Vista. De momento solo pude utilizarlo en Mac OSX Tiger (Intel) y en Windows XP.

Si quieren ver Screenshots, pueden ver el post de Huguito en Esquizopedia.com, hay un monton de screenshots y sus opinioes (pero no hagan click todavia, lean primero esto que se pone bueno), tambien pueden ver a Joost en accion si van a youtube.com y escriben “joost” hay un monton de videos de la interfaz asi que no me moleste en grabar nada por mi mismo.

So, aqui van las opiniones en un bulleted list.

  • En ambos sistemas el producto funciono igual de bien.
  • La calidad de los videos depende de como los hayan codificado, algunos videos se ven calidad cercana a DVD (sino igual), otros se ven mas tipo DailyMotion estirados, esto depende estoy casi seguro de como hayan sido codificados.
  • Los “canales” no cambian tan rapido como dicen la gente de Joost, en los casos mas rapidos te quedas viendo los 3 cristalitos de Joost dando vuelta unos 3 o 4 segundos, en los casos mas lentos hasta 10 o 15 segundos, que supongo utiliza para llenar el buffer inicial de streaming. Pero recordemos que aun esto es una beta, quizas con la cuenta de usuario de Friis los tiempos de espera son nulos :)
  • De momento hay solo unos 20 canales, pero de haber todos los canales que se esperan tras el negocio con Viacom va a ser sumamente adictivo y divertido.
  • Los “Widgets” son bien interesantes y muestran el potencial ilimitado de la interfaz, la cual me recuerda a que esto puede ir facilmente a una caja que puedas poner encima de tu televisor algun dia. Con los widgets y la interfaz actual pueden emular un sencillo sistema operativo, de momento el widget que mas me causo asombro fue un Cliente Jabber que permite conectarte a GTalk, tan solo pones tu email @gmail y tu password y estas logeado en GTalk. (Encontre ciertos bugs cuando intente cambiar el tamano de las ventanas del cliente jabber, con mayor severidad en la version de mac)
  • Esta escrito en XULRunner (Vease con que se escribe Democracy Player, SongBird, y Firefox), XUL y mucho javascript. Todo lo que es el Streaming no pueden ver el codigo, esta metido dentro de DLLs, pero si pueden ver partes de la interfaz escritas en XUL (que es un lenguaje XML para describir interfaces de usuario y que poco a poco esta rompiendo la liga con extensiones de Firefox y ahora con aplicaciones, aun falta documentacion pero poco a poco)
  • No me parece que aun este funcionando del todo en modo P2P, algunas personas, incluyendome, no pudimos monitorear gran cantidad de throughput saliendo de nuestra linea, mas si entrando, quizas aun no hay tantos peers en la red y se pueden dar el lujo de afinar detalles funcionando con ancho de banda en sus datacenters
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